Ep. 244: Boooooooooooooo!
The Basketball Jones — The Fix — Episode 244 (.mp3)
On today’s show, Tas and I discuss: Nash’s aggressive offense; Yi’s development; whether it’s fair to boo a player on your home team (see: Brown, Kwame); and much, much more…
We also take a call from “Kevin McHale,” Whoa Boy it up, and thank that little Canadian feller for saving us.
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Where are the shirts? All my other cumrags are in the laundry!
Did you guys realize that the Bucks announcers refer to Charlie V (or CV3 to any sane person) only as “V”? C’mon, that has to be the absolute laziest nickname of all time. Would you guys please chastise whoever does the Bucks play-by-play on your next podcast? I’m not sure what his name is, but I have already decided that his nickname is “A” (for Announcer). Thanks to “A”, I now have an irrational hate for the whole state of Wisconsin.
Skeets wins the booing argument.
You dont boo a player on your team who is bad, that is strictly on the GM and coach for acquiring bad talent. But you definitey can and should boo lack of effort.
The Kwame Brown booing doesn’t do any good to him or the team. Kwame Brown isnt a good player. Period. Continuously harassing your own player is counterproductive since it also aggravates the whole team. Why would you want to do that as a fan?
Now if Brown was a lazy bastard who walked back on defence, didnt bother to jump to rebound and was obviously tanking it… I can go both ways. But rarely do I think a player deserves to be singled out.
Then again, Ricky Davis shooting at his own net to pad his stats? Damn right you boo him.
Evident lack of effort should be booed.
Your team is trailing 38-11 at the end of the first quarter and massive booing is a great tool for a coach.
He doesnt have to tell them “You bunch of dumb, fat, selfish, lazy cows! Have you ever heard of defence? We could have had Rosie O’Donnell, Rosie Barr and Rosie Rowbotham on the court and they could do a better job of defending the pick and roll!!!” The booing does this for the coach.
Once upon a time in the midst of their long run, the Bulls were booed at home by their spoiled fans at the end of a quarter (or going into a time out). Do you know what Phil Jackson said? Nothing.
He made them listen to the booing and had some pithy comment about there being a message in there about their effort that they should seek. (Phil DEFINITELY was a deadhead. I know a lot of old acid freaks that speak like that and while it may sound profound to some, it usually has as much substance as Tom Cruise’s latest video.)
Your team gets embarassed regularly like the Knicks do and of course you boo, silence can be camouflaged at the end with music. In NY they try to drown out the boos with louder music
but booing at the end of a game sends a message.
That is where I think it is the most effective.
Hell, make applause/booing mandatory at the end of quarters.
Or if booing offends Tassessess (I can never figure out the apostrophe S thing) sensibilities so much, bring in technology to civilize it.
Have people text message their assessment of each quarters with the final result. Tally the result and show on the screen in big letters:
EFFORT: 38.5%
Instead of booing, we can grade them.
Does this sound better to you?
Besides, you guys get booed all the time here.
If you suck, people let you know here.
The nasty ones will even question your manhood or sexuality.
You (constantly) blow your picks and people will definitely let you know.
That’s called Booing 2.0 my friends.
The only thing worse than booing is indifference.
Seize my ‘nads and hope theyre healthy!!
Papa Chango
Montreal>Cuba
A little known fact: Tas is FLEA.
Skeets, did you know the Blazers are the 3rd youngest team of all time? Their youth has largely been ignored this season, but it’s true. Every game they win sets a new record for ‘most wins by a team that young’. Wasn’t sure if you guys were aware of it, because Raef LaFrentz and his veteran guile get most of the attention this year.
Booing your own player when he hasn’t done anything wrong besides not being Andrew Bynum paints a perfect picture of Laker fans. I moved down here to LA during that Clipper playoff run a few seasons ago, and everyone was like “Lakers who?”. Now everyone is back to the Lakers, but will forget them again like last year if the season turns even a little sour. Flea might be a die hard, but most here are just like the Laker fan sterotype: Only there when winning and smell dumb.
Kwame obviously sucks, but that doesn’t make him Ruben Patterson or Vince Carter or some other rapist. Just because he has small hands it doesn’t mean he can’t feel. I’m not sure if people know this, but Kwame was actually a #1 pick a few years back and he probably has a lot of untapped potential. The Lakers were smart to snatch him up for some un-used wing (Rasual Butler, I think), and Laker fans need to CHEER so he can develop.
Mortimer
CARON! CARON! CARON! They got Kwame for CARON! Develop? A few years back? More like 7. If people think Bogut or Bargnani are busts, please see Kwame.
Tas! Haha, I was just playing yo. Ironical and what not. I don’t like them booing him, but Kwame is an all time draft bust forever and a day. 9 million a year before he had even shown a GLIMPSE of anything. Caron is super sweet dude, I know the score here m’man! Champ!
EVERYONE knows Kwame was a #1 pick and it’ll forever haunt him, just like everyone knows the Blazers are the youngest team. Etc.
And as far as I know, VC hasn’t raped anyone… YET. Besides the fans of Toronto and “right way” proponents.
I’ll underline the jokey parts and add winks and fart noises next time.
Great show again as always, hope you had a good MLK day.
Mortimer
>And as far as I know, VC hasn’t raped anyone…
He’d probably quit halfway through it, sulk and then explain to this victim that he had a pulled groin.
Besides, Carter is a bottom, everyone knows it.
Not because he likes to receive, just because he is that lazy.
Its not about the MLK, its all about the KSW.
I don’t understand sarcasm (I think that was sarcastic).
What happened to Charlie V? soph slump or did Colangalo knew something the rest of us didnt?
Kevin McHale sounded Scottish to me…
haha wutta picture up there !!!